Registration drives: Cause for legal concern?
Friday, August 29, 2008; 12:00 AM
All around the Virginia Tech campus and downtown Blacksburg, campaigners are hard at work registering students to vote in the upcoming election.

This article has been corrected from its initial form. Radford City, not Montgomery County, was the subject of some controversy in 2005 regarding voter registrations. Neither Radford City nor Montgomery County rejected large numbers of voters in that year. Letters sent from the Radford City registrar to students in 2005 seeking clarification of their registration information when information was missing from their voter registrations.

This information has been removed because it does not add substantive clarification to an already murky issue.

The Collegiate Times regrets these errors.

Owing to Virginia's crucial status on the national electoral map, several politically-minded groups have come to Blacksburg hoping to register voters. However, simply registering to vote could have dire consequences for some college students.

In the past few days, Randy Wertz, the general registrar at the Montgomery County Voter Registration Office, said he has received phone calls from many distraught parents and worried students fretting over what legal implications are caused by registering to vote in Blacksburg.

Mark Everett, a senior in computer science, recently registered to vote in Blacksburg; his parents reside in Haynesville, Va. When approached by a voter registration campaigner, no mention was made of any implications in re-registering to vote with his Blacksburg address.

However, when a person's registration is switched to Montgomery County, it is required that they change their driver's license and car registration to their address in Blacksburg within 30 days.

"When a voter registers to vote in a county other than his hometown, you're supposed to change everything. Your car should be registered and your driver's license should be renewed," said Bruce Phillips, attorney at law of Student Legal Services,.

Everett was unaware of this law and expressed his dismay.

"I wish I had known that," Everett said.  "I probably wouldn't have registered to vote in Blacksburg and would have sent in an absentee ballot."

Many students consider where their parents live to be their official address. But some consider Blacksburg, where they spend a majority of their year at school, to be their place of residency. Wertz said the misunderstanding of the law lies within where differing students consider themselves home.

"Domicile is the key," Wertz said. "By registering here, (students) consider this their domicile. They need to check with people once they claim this is their permanent residence. They need to check with tax attorneys or insurance people" to see whether they might be affected.

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Posted by: Jon at 9/28/08 I was a student in Blacksburg for 7 years and voted absentee ballot every year. It was easy and makes all of this arguing ridiculous. Sounds like a bunch of uninformed students making a big deal about nothing. Or maybe just a bunch of Democraps creating a problem where there isn't. Sound familiar???? Flag Abuse
Posted by: martymar at 9/11/08 This article is confusing and nonsensical. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Anonymous at 9/05/08 I am a student who was encouraged to register to vote during one of my classes. They reassured us there would be no legal implications but now I see that there will be. The sucky thing is that there were probably about 200 students who registered to vote during that class including out of state students...does anyone know of a way to reverse this so that I can still claim my hometown as my permanent address! Flag Abuse
Posted by: Bradford S. at 9/01/08 Vote Virginia: Let me clarify. When i registered i supplied all that information but none of it was confirmed. I did not have to show my ID when i registered. And besides, we all have heard of Identity Theft. Is it so hard to imagine a person with all the 'credentials' and voting twice when somehow two individuals are able to live off one SS number? There is clearly errors in the systems that check these credentials. In addition, are you willing to tell me that these databases are checked as well as financial databases? Questions are still raised, how do candidates win entire regions by margins larger than the populace living in the region? How did legally dead people vote for Kennedy in the 60s? Do not be naive. Besides are you even familiar with other states voting laws? Not all states require a SS number, some just require proof of residency in the region. That proof can be as simple as another person vouching for you. So once again as stated below, drop that stupid voter disenfranchisement argument. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Vote Virginia at 9/01/08 Bradford S wrote "As far as i can tell there is no system that ensures each person is in fact a citizen or registered to that particular voting area. Whats stopping someone from voting in 2 locations?" Well, the threat of a long prison sentence for one thing: Registering and/or voting in multiple elections is either a class 5 or class 6 felony in Virginia. You supply your SSN, name, birthdate when you register. The Help America Vote act requires each state to maintain a state wide voter registration database, one purpose of which is to find any duplicate registration. Voters are also required to show an id the first time they vote in a federal election after registering by mail. In subsequent federal, and all state elections, you can sign an affirmation under penalty of perjury if you forgot your id. Double voting is not a real problem in Virginia. I challenge you to document a single case. The real problem is people who use that false idea as an excuse to place barriers in the path of legitimate voters Flag Abuse
Posted by: Anonymous at 9/01/08 nice roanoke article Flag Abuse
Posted by: Poll Worker at 8/30/08 Do note that first time voters are required to show proof that they live at the address they have registered under. If your driver's license does not match your voter registration, you will need to bring extra supporting documents. Also, the voting location for on-campus students is not located on any BT route, so you should plan on calling one of the campaign offices to arrange transportation to the polls. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Matt at 8/30/08 Here is the The Roanoke Times article about the same issue http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/wb/175015 Flag Abuse
Posted by: Andy at 8/29/08 I don't know what I got from this article. I am sure CT doesn't know what they were trying to provide when they wrote this article either. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Anonymous at 8/29/08 Im willing to bet its the same person posting online Flag Abuse
Posted by: Anonymous at 8/29/08 Liberals: Shouldn't you be getting angry at the LAWYER and GENERAL REGISTRAR AT THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY VOTER REGISTRATION OFFICE for spreading these lies, too? Flag Abuse
Posted by: Anonymous at 8/29/08 This article has numerous factual errors. I hope the CT prints a full retraction on the front page. Otherwise, it will lose an incredible amount of credibility. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Anonymous at 8/29/08 This article is completely and totally false and I'm astonished that the CT ran it. Try and do a little research next time. I know the retraction is being printed in Tuesday's edition, but it would be nice if a little note was put on the online version for the time being. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Anonymous at 8/29/08 This article has not mentioned anything about political affiliation. How are you guys deriving these comments about right-wingers and preventing people voting for Obama? Flag Abuse
Posted by: Anonymous at 8/29/08 What disturbs me the most is that this article made it through editorial review. Not only is the writer responsible for this deliberate campaign of misinformation and sensationalism, but anyone else who let it slip through the cracks. The political motive here is obvious and shameful, not to mention a tried and true tactic of right-wingers across the country. Whether its shutting down roads to curtail Democratic voter turnout or misinforming a key demographic about registration proceedings, we've seen it before and are bound to see it more as November draws closer. Flag Abuse
Posted by: know the law at 8/29/08 The Virginia State Board of Elections, the authority on this topic, has taken the position that if a student considers himself or herself a resident of Virginia, then they can register to vote where they go to school. It is not the place of the Registrar to try and figure out if in fact a student is "domiciled" at school, it is the students. The State Board has also plainly said that a dormitory is an acceptable address for registration purposes. College students are adults and should be treated as such. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Will Not Place an Ad in this Paper at 8/29/08 I was going to place an ad in this paper for my organization. After reading this article... I am insulted by the false accusations and lies that have been written to put fear in freshman democratic voters. Nope. I won't place an ad in the CT now. Infact, I'm calling up all my sister organizations sharing the ad with them so we all know to pull our future ads from the CT. SHAME! Flag Abuse
Posted by: Anonymous at 8/29/08 I've been contacted by 2 student organizations who are calling for Ralph to be reprimanded for this article that's full of inconsistency and lies. Quit trying to scare freshman students from voting for OBAMA! The petitions are coming for Ralph's axe from the paper. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Concerned Student cont'd at 8/29/08 4) A student's status as a "dependent" under their parent's taxes is also not affected by voter registration - "full time students" fall under an exception to the requirement that a dependent live with the parents for over half of the tax year. Again, you will note Ralph fails to provide a citation for this bogus claim. 5) Registrars that are not registering students that live in dorms are acting against the directives of the Virginia State Board of Elections and will likely be hearing from them soon. Again, this is a terrible piece of journalism. Not only because it is full of errors but because it really does have a chilling effect on voting and voter registration. Congratulations, you just disenfranchised some unknown number of now needlessly scared students! Flag Abuse
Posted by: Concerned Student at 8/29/08 This article is terrible and full of legal and factual errors. I assume that this will be Ralph's last article with the paper. 1) Virginia Code requires "new residents" to register their auto within 30 days and get a new drivers license within 60 DAYS (not 30 days). However, just because you are a "resident" for purposes of registering to vote doesn't mean you're a "new resident" for licensing/registration purposes. And practically speaking, this law is never ever enforced against students. Never. 2) Montgomery County is registering all students, including those living in dorms, and has for at least the last 4 years (they're not being rejected as Ralph, without citation, says they are). 3) A student's status as an "eligible child" under a parent's health insurance us not affected by voter registration - just call them and ask, they will confirm as much. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Bradford S. at 8/29/08 Oh please, get off that voter disenfranchisement argument. So lame and so predictable. Why shouldn't we be more suspicious of who registers to vote? As far as i can tell there is no system that ensures each person is in fact a citizen or registered to that particular voting area. Whats stopping someone from voting in 2 locations? Flag Abuse
Posted by: Anonymous at 8/29/08 Obviously you did not do any real research for this article. It is totally false. I have yet to meet anybody who has been rejected. This is totally voter disenfranchisement! Flag Abuse
Posted by: Anonymous at 8/29/08 Voter supression. Lies, lies, lies. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Anonymous at 8/29/08 False. The lawyers are coming for you CT. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Anonymous at 8/29/08 How come we didn't have to show any proof that we are a US citizen? Flag Abuse
Posted by: Campaigner for Liberty at 8/29/08 WRITE IN RON PAUL! Flag Abuse






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