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Column: The facts behind gun control need to be cleared

August 2nd, 2007
Dan Sheehan, regular columnist
Following the publication of my column titled “Guns at Virginia Tech would be Disastrous,” individuals in favor of permitting concealed handgun permit holders to pack heat on campus lambasted my piece. Ordinarily, I think that it’s counterproductive to go “tit for tat” with my fellow columnists and readers, but having been accused of misleading readers and manipulating fact, I feel obligated to defend my opinion and not let our readers be fooled by a fanatic wing of the gun community.

Nearly 50 percent of all full-time college students binge drink and/or abuse drugs at least once a month (according to the American College of Health). Regarding collegiate gun owners, that number rises to 66 percent. The ATF reports that the ages of 18-24 (especially 19-21) are the “prime years” for persons to commit violent gun crimes, including homicide.

One reader implied that I have a “very, very low opinion of the maturity and moral character of the students at VT;” nothing could be further from the truth. I love Virginia Tech and my experience there would have been drastically different had it not been populated with the high-quality people who also made Tech their home. Regardless of what I or anyone else thinks, the numbers are what they are. It’s not that I have a low opinion of my fellow students, it’s that I’m not blind to what goes on in college. If you’ve never seen college students (including Tech students) drink to excess or use drugs, then you must have spent a lot of time away from the general population. I’m not excusing drug use or binge drinking, but the fact is that it happens, frequently. So, to introduce more guns in an environment where alcohol and drug abuse occurs at an elevated percentage and not think we will see an increase in gun-related crime is a naive and irresponsible point of view. College is statistically the most emotionally volatile part of a person’s life. How can a rational person think it logical to introduce guns to a demographic where emotional health is flighty and there is a highly elevated percentage of alcohol and drug use?

The United States has more intentional homicides committed with a firearm than any other western nation (per the UN Survey of Crime Trends 2001-2002). In 2002, 68 people were intentionally murdered with a firearm in Switzerland, and 14 were killed in the United Kingdom. In 2002, 9,369 people were intentionally murdered using a firearm in the United States. I admit to being a poor math student, but I am capable of differentiating big numbers from small numbers, and 9,369 is a substantially larger number than any of the others. I’m not writing with the goal of repealing the Second Amendment, but I’m tired of seeing gun fanatics manipulate data and fight the logic of common sense. As far as I’m concerned, they can argue per capita percentages, defensive statistics (by the way, 2 percent of handgun usage in crime is defensive), etc but it all comes down to common sense—just look at the numbers. People lie and manipulate often, but numbers are brutally honest.

It is astonishingly easy to obtain a concealed carry permit in Virginia. Criticizing my thought that it’s “easy to obtain a CHP in Virginia,” my colleague who wrote a rebuttal article stated the following: “to get that piece of paper (referring to my reference of a CHP), I underwent eight hours of classroom training as well as spending an entire day at the shooting range demonstrating that I understood firearms safety.” I don’t know how all of you feel, but I can’t think of anything besides the most menial of skills that can be mastered in eight hours. If you think that someone can arrive at the gun range at 9 a.m. and be an expert by 5 p.m. when he or she leaves, then you’ve been watching too much TV. Despite what Hollywood portrays, handgun accuracy is something that is obtained after many, many hours of practice. Eight hours is hardly a sufficient timeframe to deem someone expert enough to carry a handgun and legally use it in a public place. Also, Virginia is what’s called a “shall-issue” state, meaning that if someone who applies for a CHP passed the background check required by the Brady law, the state “shall issue” that person a CHP, should he or she request one. Regarding the “extensive criminal background check” my colleague referenced, it’s virtually the same one that occurs when someone tries to buy a gun, only the subject is fingerprinted, must demonstrate competency (which we already established as inadequate), and may have to wait up to 45 days. Since his mental health deficiency was not reported, had Cho applied for a permit, the “extensive” background check would have again overlooked him, and he would have been issued the permit (per VA Code 18.2-308 (E)(10)).

The larger issue, besides the number and percentage arguments, is how guns make people feel. One reader accused me of “pandering my own insecurities” by trying to keep guns off campus, but I’m not so insecure and paranoid that I feel the need to strap a weapon to my side. I feel like it’s just the opposite, you’re “pandering” your insecurities on the rest of us, and using what happened in April as leverage. I hate debating hypothetical situations, but I’m so sick of hearing about how CHP carriers could have prevented Cho’s massacre. I made a blanket statement in my previous column, calling CHP carriers “cowboys” (which I regret making because it insulted many law-abiding citizens), but one reader went so far as to comment that he “wished [he] had been in that classroom with [his] sidearm” and claims he would have “provided the murderer with a third eye and prevented most of the killing.” While it was not my intent to offend responsible and rational gun owners (of which there are many), it’s clear that some CHP carriers do see themselves as cowboys, and will even publish their own “hero/savior” fantasies as if they had any likelihood of plausibility. Here’s some math for the CHP savior scenario: 3 percent of Virginians have a CHP. Roughly 50 percent of Virginia Tech students are under the age of 21 and cannot legally own or possess a handgun. So, we are talking about 3 percent (assuming I can apply the state-wide percentage to the campus…in reality, it would probably be much smaller) of 50 percent. So, we’ll equate that to 1.5 percent of students having a CHP, and one of those students would have to be in Norris Hall at 9 a.m. (roughly less than .005 percent of the Tech campus was in Norris at the time of the shootings), and must have remembered to bring his/her gun that day. In summary, a student from a 1.5 percent demographic of campus would have to have been in Norris, which at the time, consisted of roughly 0.005 percent percent of campus, reducing the likelihood to the most miniscule proportion. My logic dictates to me that such a scenario is simply not plausible, and certainly not worthy of being the backbone of an argument for CHP carriers to carry guns on campus.

Also, the feelings of other students and faculty are largely ignored by those who favor guns on campus. I am speculating, but should the university poll students and parents regarding guns on campus, I’m confident the vast majority would be wholeheartedly opposed. I polled several of my former professors, and (requesting anonymity) their response was overwhelmingly against guns on campus. “If guns were allowed in my classroom, my students and I would be more afraid of violence, not less, and that fear would be palpable in the classroom—fear that would undermine both teaching and learning” said one instructor. Another professor, one who has taught at Tech for 30 years said “I'm shocked that anyone would propose this as tolerable in the first place” and, “to have weapons present anywhere but the hands of law enforcement is anathema to me.” These people in favor of bringing guns onto campus often speak of their “right to carry” and how self-defense is their “right,” but they seem innately content with ignoring the “rights” of their fellow classmates and teachers to feel safe in their environment, and open to ideas and debate, without the fear that guns bring to those who are unfamiliar with their presence.

I am not in favor of repealing the Second Amendment. I know the majority of gun owners are responsible and exemplary citizens. It is not my intent to “mislead” readers or list facts that are “flat-out incorrect.” All of my facts are from legitimate, non-partisan and unbiased sources. To the readers of this article, I ask of you this: many gun fanatics will regurgitate data that disputes my findings, but I encourage you not to believe them, or me. Rather, I encourage you to educate yourselves and follow the logic of common sense. Research the data for yourself, and use data from government sources, rather than interest groups. I am confident you will come to the same conclusion that I did: guns simply don’t belong in our schools.

Every so often, someone like Cho will come along, and violate the peace that presides in our schools, and people will use that as an excuse to push for giving guns to the “good guys” so they can defend themselves and us, should a situation like that arise again. As I’ve laid out in this article, such a decision could spell disaster for the Virginia Tech community and only ensure that guns will be involved in more campus incidents for years to come. I’m not asking for a drastic change in gun laws, or to ban guns altogether, I’m asking that we adhere to a long standing policy of no guns in schools, and not let ourselves be intimidated by those would use fear to coerce our administrators and politicians into thinking guns in the hands of students would make us safer.

School shootings are not likely to disappear in the future, but you don’t solve the problem of gun violence by introducing more guns, it’s flawed logic. We had the opportunity to grow and learn in an environment that was free from gun violence. We cannot let a rare incident, awful as it was, instill in us the same fear and mistrust that the shooter harbored. Instead, we must keep guns out of our schools, so that our children and grandchildren have the same opportunity that we did: to learn and grow with the purpose of becoming an instrument of peace. How can we hope for a more peaceful world, for ourselves and for those who proceed us, if we are going to allow instruments of violence into our centers of learning? I would like to conclude this piece with a quote from National Rifle Association EVP, Wayne LaPierre: “Firstly, we [the NRA] believe in absolutely gun-free, zero-tolerance schools. That means no guns in America’s schools, period.”

2.5 / 5 (211 Votes)

The facts behind gun control need to be cleared (by David on 16th August) Show me the % of gun related murders committed by the pop of the US. Then show me the % of gun related muders (not self defense) committed by CCW holders. Then ask your self, what group do you feel safer with?
A Different Perspective (by Jonathan McGlumphy on 15th August) If I may toot my own horn just a bit, may I recommend that everyone who reads this column also read the column entitled "Change in Courts can be Seen Around the Corner".
An Arms Race? (by Daniel Staples on 14th August) If Cho had known that everyone in Norris Hall were armed with a handgun, my guess is that he would've used an automatic assault rifle or explosives to carry out his plan. People who are determined to kill others and have no value for their own life usually find a way. That is, unless the mental health system steps in before it's too late. Arming students is not the solution to this problem. A campus full of kids carrying Glocks would probably just result in an increase in friendly fire incidents, and I bieleve the total number of shootings on campus in 2006 was zero. I like that statistic, and I would hate to see the Hokies get so caught up in their anger and immediate emotional state that they start making bad decisions.
G Williams (by Seth Price, VT '05 on 9th August) I guess I'm a criminal, because I like to shoot paper targets at 100, 200, 300, and 600 yards. I'm such a hoodlum. Oh by the way guys, National Day of Protest Against Illegal Gun Trafficking is August 28. Jesse Jackson is hosting some protest which will include crying and picketing around gun stores. Be sure to buy a gun that day in response.
Violent America (by G Williams on 9th August) MORALITY CHECK TO
Anyone notice the news of the 15 YEAR OLD who's been arrested for murdering the 3 college students in a Newark school yard + shooting a fourth during the same crime? I'm sorry - but THERE IS NO RATIONAL, MORAL ARGUMENT THAT SUPPORTS CARRYING A GUN IN 2007 UNLESS YOU ARE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT OR THE MILITARY. ALL ARGUMENTS IN 'FAVOR' OR TRANSPARENT ATTEMPTS TO RATIONALIZE THEM IN A PLACE WHERE THEY SIMPLY DON'T BELONG. "Law Abiding" or "Criminal" YOU ARE ALL THE SAME. You are the individuals who bring these weapons of violence into our society, you are the ones who accidentally shoot yourselves + others. You are the ones who have them within reach of criminals to steal and use them to commit crimes. You are the ones for whom the gun manufacturers are producing these weapons and therefor YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE OR WHERE YOU LIVE. WHEN, OH WHEN WILL THIS NATION WAKE UP AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SLAUGHTER ON OUR STREETS
Stats (by Rodndor on 8th August) Sorry to read that your stats are a bit off. 33% of the Virginia Tech Massacre Victims were 25 years old or older. Why were they denied thier human right to self defense? "When it comes to your human right of self-defense, which do you prefer....Victor or Victim?" - Rodrick S. Adams
Stats (by Rodndor on 8th August) Sorry to read that your stats are a bit off. 33% of the Virginia Tech Massacre Victims were 25 years old or older. Why were they denied thier human right to self defense? "When it comes to your human right of self-defense, which do you prefer....Victor or Victim?" - Rodrick S. Adams
Stats (by Rodndor on 8th August) Sorry to read that your stats are a bit off. 33% of the Virginia Tech Massacre Victims were 25 years old or older. Why were they denied thier human right to self defense? "When it comes to your human right of self-defense, which do you prefer....Victor or Victim?" - Rodrick S. Adams
(none) (by Ben Miner on 6th August) To the authors point about not needing to FEEL safe by carrying a gun... .who cares how you FEEL? You are ARE safer with a gun. BEING safe > FEELING safe anyday. And as far as guns being "allowed" at VT, there is no law, only school policy. It's perfectly legal for anybody to carry a gun openly (or concealed, with a permit) onto a public campus in Virginia. If you're a student you can be expelled and if you're staff you can be fired, but you can't be charged with anybody.
How Strange (by G Williams on 6th August) What ever happened to attending a university to simply GET AN EDUCATION?
Well... (by Alan Rose on 6th August) I've lived the majority of my days without needing a gun. Which means nothing when I decide whether I will wear mine tomorrow. Nobody needs a gun until they need it RIGHT NOW! If I could predict when and where I needed a gun, I wouldn't be there at that time!
No one has a right to "feel" safe. Check the Constitution. Do these Professors feel safe when they are at Barnes & Noble? How about when I am standing next to them and I am armed with a concealed handgun. Do they "feel" any different? Can they "feel" the gun in my waistband?
Funny that you don't mention the one obvious aberration in your logic, that the Blue Ridge Community College specifically allows students with CHPs on campus. No slaughters yet, but I'm holding my breath, because according to you, those beer swilling country boys are gonna start bustin caps any minute now. Still waiting, turning blue...
First Responders (by Graham on 6th August) The first responders I've talked to said that if more students had guns it would've compounded their nightmare and slowed rescue efforts even more. When they know that only the bad guys have the guns when they enter a scene, that's all they have to worry about, but when civilians are armed too it makes things even more complicated. Not to mention the fact that everyone was ambused in the first place.
I can't beleive what I'm reading (by Todd M Lowdermilk on 6th August) This article is the biggest bunch of liberal garbage I've seen in a long time. Are you related to Cindy Sheehan...
Either guns or catapults (by Tjoa F. Harianto on 5th August) As someone already mentioned, America is a world of self defense, being defenseless in this kind of unsafe world'd make you feel more unsafe indeed. I don't think making this kind of country much more safer'd be a good idea,meanwhile Europe is designed for such 'another' thing, you know? Perhaps letting students wearing bulletproof armor, and carrying either guns or catapults might be better. The psychologically key factor is that everyone could not attack others easily,because he/she 'd know already that others could fight back immediately.Just kind of another "game" with another rules.
Guns at Virginia Tech (by Dave Pedreira on 3rd August) Forging statistics to favor one's opinion is natural, it is very hard to be neutral and remain unbiased when evaluating strong emotional issues.
Yes, college students party. But none of the campus shootings nationwide happened at a party, a sports event, or while a drug deal was going down. They happened when sober, conscientious students were at school.
You want to consider homicide statistics? First look into it and I think you'll find those European countries do not include gang bangers, gang initiations, and people killed during crimes other than the homicides.
Training? Firearm SAFETY training required is not meant to create an expert in handling firearms. It is to teach the basic mechanical workings of firearms and to instill an inate understanding of firearm handling. Take any beginner out shooting-they get excited and start to point the gun in an unsafe direction as they talk. You remind them to always remember to keep any firearm pointed in a safe direction.
none (by Art on 3rd August) The thrust of the column is that it's a higher moral value for people to be defenseless while wrong-minded people can roam unrestrained.
Facts Behind Gun Control (by Lou on 3rd August) As a pro gun person I have no objection to going unarmed in airports, courthouses, and other places with metal detectors and armed guards at the entrances. In such places an honest effort is being made to keep all firearms out. Rules against firearms without enforcement are as effective as rules against binge drinking or drug use. Fortunately college students usually choose to abuse themselves rather than to abuse others.

By your logic, since there is an increase in binge drinking and drug use by college students, there should be an increase in alcohol and drug related crime by college students. Can you support such a conclusion? If so, I guess college is even more dangerous that I thought.
rather than pleas for mercy (by Mr. R. on 3rd August) After developing a rate estimate (1.5 percent students with CHP), I can't imagine why you'd look for another percentage (students in Norris Hall). That is, unless you were trying to make the results seem smaller than reality -- and as you figured the percentage of students in Norris that morning so badly (as mentioned in another comment), I'll assume that was your intent.

Most good high school students would know that once you have a rate, you need a count of something to apply it to. In this case it would be the number of students in Norris. If there were 67 students there that morning, one likely would have been a CHP holder using your rate. If there were 133, then likely there'd be 2. But if most students in Norris that day were upperclassmen, your halving of the rate doesn't apply -- there may have been twice as many CHP holders.

It seems that Cho went down the rows of students, murdering them as they tried hiding under their desks. No doubt each one begged,
Gun Control is a failure at reducing crime (by James Mullen on 3rd August) So, those who want to lawfully possess the means to protect and defend themselves are somehow “gun fanatics”. What other groups that you disagree with do you also scapegoat and stereotype as well: homosexuals, muslims, environmentalists? Or would this be hateful according to your compassionate, progressive, and tolerant views? Do you refer to yourself as an “anti-gun fanatic” or being firearm-phobic?

If college aged kids are more likely to commit violent crimes, abuse drugs and alcohol then let’s ban alcohol and drugs too. Oh, wait, that’s been tried and it was a complete failure, just as gun control is a complete failure, but somehow you want more of what has been proven a failure to make yourself feel safe rather than actually be safe. There is not one single independent academic study showing any gun control law in this nation as having a positive impact at reducing crime.
Gun Free Zones (by Fred G on 3rd August) All Schools are are considered to be Gun Free which means they should have a sign that states, " Wolves, Sheep inside, No Shepards or Sheep dogs allowed. Buffet is open."

Just a thought you might want to consider. Any declared gun free zone is an excellent place for a would be killer to do what they want as they have no fear of a victem(s) ability to defend themselves or others.

Why do you think that death tolls on school campuses is always so high?
Statistics (by Seth Price on 3rd August) Who cares about statistics? We could say certain races, ethnic groups, and income levels are statistically more likely to commit crime. You cannot use statistics to deprive people of their rights. What is the crime here? Murder. Not carrying a gun. Let's focus on the actual crime rather than everything else. You, sir, would like to think that all CCW holders are criminals- and would like to make it that way. They have the equipment to commit murder. I guess that makes all men rapists, because they have the necessary equipment. Better do something about that too.

In reality, I don't think a CCW holder could have prevented the VT shooting. I'm not sure anything could have. Us "Gun nuts" have to be defensive, as everytime anything happens, a piece of our freedom is lost. As a nation, we are angry at some of the "Homeland Security" legislation- and it seems the rights of many people are lost due to the emotional outcry after 9/11. The same is
Facts behind gun control (by Alan on 3rd August) Very well written, well thought out opinion. Don't be intimidated by the gun fanatics. More guns simply means more dead.
You Are Wrong (by Jep Poole on 3rd August) When I went to Penn State (a professional party school), I was a proud binge drinker. I could vomit on command and very often would wake up in foreign places, dazed & confused. I also kept a high powered hunting rifle and 1911 pistol in my room the whole time, and NEVER abused the priviledge of gun ownership. None of pro-gunners is advocating that all students be armed...but no one should prevent those of us who wish to protect ourselves from doing so. Armed citizen response stopped the school shootings at a VA law school, in Edniboro PA, and in Pearl Miss. While a madman is shooting, and police are taking cover...why shouldn't those (at least 1 or 2) being targeted be offered an opportunity to shoot back?
Gun Control (by Shawn on 3rd August) I find it very interesting you chose Switzerland as part of your homicide statistics. Most anti-gun people won't touch it as Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world. and not just any guns... autiomatic weapons. In fact, it is not uncommon to see someone getting on the train there with a G3 strapped to their back heading off to a range. No one flips out and the gun does not magically try and kill someone.

Your statistics also fail to show the differences in population size and diversity in the countries you mentioned. You also negelct to mention that in Britain, the homicide rate was always low, and yet, after banning most guns, the homiced rate by firearms has actually risen. The same thing happened in Australia. You also leave out the FBI's statistic that a firearm is used over 2.5 million times a year to stop a crime from occuring. I happen to have fallen into that category as well, having used my legal CCW weapon to stop an armed robbery
relativity (by Mr. Y on 3rd August) An interesting concept; hanging the right to defend oneself on the presence of alcohol, or by those who aren't likely to be consuming it. Let's look at your premise.

The highest rate of alcoholism, binge drinking, and suicides of any demographic known other than the homeless - Sworn law enforcement officers. Yup, google it. POs have over twice the incidence of alcoholism as others. Another aspect of this is that it is astonishingly easy for police departments to hire very poor marksmen. If you ever got to a shooting range frequented by law enforcement you would be in for a serious reevaluation of your beliefs. The truth is that most police officers do not regularly train with firearms. When they do, their accuracy is not significantly better than an untrained non-CHP holder. Less than 1% of police officers train outside of the required qualifications. So those much propped up VT police, or "second responders" as we like to call them in the firearms training
Comments (by Kathy Dillon on 3rd August) The problem is, Dan, that you do not have a right to feel safe. People have all sorts of irrational fears... should we indulge all of these, and attempt to expunge the classroom of all things that make any one of the students feel unsafe? Should we also disallow students of Arab descent in the classroom because "statistics" show that most terrorists are Middle Eastern?

Let me tell you, being totally defenseless in a dangerous world makes ME feel unsafe. Why is your irrational fear of good people who carry guns more worthy of being indulged than my rational fear of being one of the 9,639 Americans who are murdered by people like Cho each year?
Re: Column: The facts behind gun control need to be cleared (by Frank Klein on 3rd August) We were talking about allowing college students who already have CCW permits to bring guns into the classroom, and you brought up binge drinking as a reason why this was a poor idea.

Tell me, how much binge drinking is there in a typical classroom while a class is in session?

This objection is nothing more than a red herring. The college students we were talking about already have concealed carry permits, and the state didn't think it was a bad idea to issue those permits because their applicants were in school. They can carry guns anywhere else except to class, despite their status as students, and it has not been a problem.

If you were making the case that certain racial groups should be denied carry because they are "statistically" more likely to commit crimes, you would be branded a racist. Statistics aside, people should only be judged on what they personally have done, not on what others in their demographic group have done. Shame on you.
Facts would be nice.. (by illspirit on 3rd August) And once again, you are torturing the facts like they're 'enemy combatants' of some sort..

"Nearly 50 percent of all full-time college students binge drink and/or abuse drugs at least once a month (according to the American College of Health). Regarding collegiate gun owners, that number rises to 66 percent."

Can you say inverse correlation? Had you read past the executive summary on this piece of agitprop statistical sorcery, you would notice a few strange things. For one, most the 'gun owners' enumerated therein admitted on the survey that they carried firearms in direct contravention to State and Federal laws prohibiting firearms on campus. What do we call people who illegally carry firearms? Criminals. And who is it that is most likely to use (and, for that matter, sell..) drugs? Criminals, again. Then of course, those engaging in illegal activities also have a higher propensity towards other high-risk activities such as binge drinking or what have you.
Arming students (by Frank Silbermann on 3rd August) If VATech deems Virginia's requirements for a concealed carry permit to be too lenient, then let the school set up its own training standards rather than rejecting guns regardless of training. If the concern is too much binge drinking and drug use, then bring back the responsibility for In Loco Parensis that universities had until forty years ago.
Do the math (by Tom Gentry on 2nd August) You claim that "less the .005 percent" of students were present. VT claims a student population of "25,000+". That means that only 1.25 students were there. AMAZING
Sheehan's anti-gun column (by carl finley on 2nd August) Mr. Sheehan:
You repeatedly accuse the pro gunners of lying or manipulating the facts. The fact is, you're guilty of your own accusations:

You mention that in the U.S. in 2002 some 9,369 people were "intentionally" murdered (by the way that's an interesting term - intentionally murdered - did you dream that one up?) but getting back to the point, you say that only 68 persons were intentionally murdered in Switzerland and 14 in the United Kingdom. I would like to know how the U.S. murder rate (intentional, that is) compares with the overall rate of the UK or Switzerland.

I'd also like to challenge your " 2 percent of handgun usage in a crime is defensive" statement...just what the hell does that mean? The only thing brutal in your column is your writing. The person lying and manipulating statistics to make one's point, is you. And, well, to be honest can you explain your definition of "handgun usage"? Is that like, when, a woman pulls
Keep guns off campus (by Mandy on 2nd August) Thank you for your articulate column. The gun rights fanatics can't really refute hard statistics like you've laid out, though I'm sure they will try. But hopefully common sense will prevail and guns will never be allowed on campus.
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